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"I think the way liberals have treated blacks like children and many of their policies have been harmful to blacks, at least they got the beneficiary group right," Coulter said. "There is the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow laws. We don't owe the homeless. We don't owe feminists. We don't owe women who are desirous of having abortions or gays who want to get married to one another. That's what civil rights has become for much of the left."

"Immigrant rights are not civil rights?" Stephanopoulos asked.

"No," Coulter responded, "No. I think civil rights are for blacks. What have we done to the immigrants? We owe black people something. We have a legacy of slavery. Immigrants haven't even been in this country."
-The great humanitarian and intellectual Ann Coulter on the subject of civil rights.

Civil rights ARE FOR EVERYONE; EVERYONE in this country regardless of race or sex or religion or national origin or any other consideration, EVERYONE.

WE THE PEOPLE, asshole...not "We the people who Ann Coulter thinks deserve rights"

I am still waiting for her to pull off the mask and admit to being a liberal performance artist; no one is actually that stupid, bigoted, and narrow-minded, are they? WHY THE FUCK do conservatives who are intelligent, compassionate, caring people who DEEPLY love their country and their compatriots allow Ann Coulter and her shrill, know-nothing, hateful, spiteful ilk speak for them?
Oh yeah, I forgot. Reasonable, sane discussion has no place in the media.

Date: 9/24/12 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mlknchz.livejournal.com
I paid FULL attention to what was said, and I repudiate it utterly in respect to "civil rights" being solely a "black issue". It is not and never has been. When synagogues are plastered with swastikas, it is considered, rightly, a civil rights issue. When gay people are targeted because they are gay, it IS a civil rights issue. When women are denied rights because of their gender, THAT is a civil rights issue.
Are Jews and gays and women not "whites"?

But really, that's not even CLOSE to the point. Coulter was using this flawed and stupid argument to try to justify denying civil rights to another group of people. She's wrong, for all the wrong reasons, and she should be honest enough to realize that.

Date: 9/24/12 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baron-waste.livejournal.com

I'm not seeing that in what she actually said.


“I think the way liberals have treated blacks like children and many of their policies have been harmful to blacks, at least they got the beneficiary group right," Coulter said. "There is the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow laws. We don't owe the homeless. We don't owe feminists. We don't owe women who are desirous of having abortions or gays who want to get married to one another. That's what civil rights has become for much of the left."

"Immigrant rights are not civil rights?" Stephanopoulos asked.

"No," Coulter responded, "No. I think civil rights are for blacks. What have we done to the immigrants? We owe black people something. We have a legacy of slavery. Immigrants haven't even been in this country."

She was saying the “civil rights” shakedown racket, as it has been defined and executed since Jesse Jackson first waved the bloody shirt of Martin Luther King, does not apply to those identities which have entered politics since then. She's right.

But it's stil odd for her to even work within “identity politics” as a concept. She's given way, yielded on an important point, and I don't like that.

So I guess we do have a commonality after all!

Date: 9/24/12 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mlknchz.livejournal.com
No, she's SAYING immigrants do not deserve civil rights. All the rest is a facile smoke-screen to justify that statement.

The fact that the greatest concerted effort to deny civil (in the case voting) rights was perpetrated against blacks in the 1950-1960's and it was against THOSE efforts that civil rights enforcement was primarily aimed DOES NOT in any way grant nor deny civil rights to other people or groups.

The two issues have nothing whatsoever to do with each other. To pretend otherwise is, at the very least, intellectually dishonest

To put it as simply as I am able, when it comes to civil rights, if they are being denied to people THAT is the issue, not TO WHOM they're being denied. I Coulter is trying to frame the argument around that, and she's wrong to do that.

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