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[mlknchz]

Has it occured to anyone else that as it stands now, Joe Libermann is the most important person in the Senate?
As he was elected as an Independent, he is not beholden to either party. IF he votes with the Democrats, they have 51 votes. IF he votes with the Republicans (which is by no means impossible), it becomes a 50/50 tie and Cheney casts the deciding vote.
Let's remember that the Democrats ran a pretty smear-filled campaign against him in both the primary (where he was rejected as the Democratic candidate) and the general elections; they are probably not his favorite people right now.
What an enviable position he is in, to be able to vote his conscience unfettered by party politics.

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[inertiam.livejournal.com]

He had said that he was going to caucus with the Dems though.

[mlknchz.livejournal.com]

he MAY, he may not..he's a feisty fellow

[inertiam.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but he's no McCain. Heh.

[mlknchz.livejournal.com]

The larger larger overlooked story is that the Dems have been told to put up or shut up.

well

[strange-idols.livejournal.com]

could that not apply too to bernie sanders?

Re: well

[mlknchz.livejournal.com]

It very well could, though I doubt Sanders, being a Socialist, is any threat to vote with the Republicans. Liebermann MIGHT, given his stance on the war.

oh truth

[strange-idols.livejournal.com]

plus I guess he has got kind of a track record. still I reckon he votes with his conscience, at least.

[glazomaniac.livejournal.com]

i heard tell the other guy from up yonder what got in independent is actually a socialist.

[inertiam.livejournal.com]

Yep-- self-described at least. Stretch of the imagination to think that that guy would caucus with the GOP.

[mlknchz.livejournal.com]

indeed, see above :)

[inertiam.livejournal.com]

Joe-- I'm a bit happy on wine, cut me some slack will ya?

[mlknchz.livejournal.com]

Always, old boy :)

[glazomaniac.livejournal.com]

if the man had less practicality & more nerve, he'd be openly disgusted that he has to pick the lesser of two evils to side with. it's like picking between a slow, painful death & a slower, painful death.

[mlknchz.livejournal.com]

well, the PRACTICAL thing to do would be to see who's going to give him the best deal for his vote

[glazomaniac.livejournal.com]

depending on how you define "best deal," that might be what i'd say he should do anyway. that is, if "best deal" is defined in longterm & wide ranging perspective, the best deal is to do what he feels is right based on what is beneficial to everyone (from the aliens across the universe who mightone day conquer us to the benevolent amoebas in our colons). if "best deal" is defined on which party is gonna give him the most immediate influence, money, etc, well, we have a different pie entirely.

[mlknchz.livejournal.com]

precisely...I actually trust Liebermanns integrity, shocking think for me to say about any politician

[glazomaniac.livejournal.com]

i am not overly familiar with him, but wasn't he the on who was all abou censoring video games a while back?

[mlknchz.livejournal.com]

I don't recall that, but he was Gores running mate in 2000

[glazomaniac.livejournal.com]

that i did know. i campaigned for nader back then, actually, & was much more informed. these days, i'm so cut off from the world i didn't know an election was coming til people on lj started complaining about the ads.

[inertiam.livejournal.com]

Gore's wife was behind the phrase "Tipper Sticker" referring to parental advisories on music albums... not-so-strange bedfellows?

[inertiam.livejournal.com]

When it comes down to it, I'm inclined to side with pragmatism.

[mlknchz.livejournal.com]

That's cause, like me, you're a true child of your generation.

[inertiam.livejournal.com]

Ummm... what generation am I? I could never figure that out.

DUDE

[mr-quackenbush.livejournal.com]

I just saw you recommended Red Cavalry to chocolatebark. I just wanted to say I just finished it and it was amazing.

Re: DUDE

[mlknchz.livejournal.com]

Wasn't it??
If you're interested in the subject (The Russian Civil War), may I also recommend "Farewell to the Don" by H.N.H. Williamson, if you can find it.

i remember Joe Lieberman

[tdaschel.livejournal.com]

...as Bill Buckley's choice to replace maverick Republican Lowell Weicker in the Senate (late 80's, i guess).

Re: i remember Joe Lieberman

[mlknchz.livejournal.com]

and Bill knows conservatives